Vater Players Design Mike Wengren 17 in Drumsticks — Oval Nylon Tip
The Mike Wengren is a pair of 17 in drumsticks, 0.625 in thick: between a 5B and a 2B in the hand, with a reach few kit sticks offer. Its oval nylon tip serves a clear purpose: staying audible when everything else is distorted.
What sets it apart
- 17 in (43.2 cm) long, well above average
- 0.625 in (15.9 mm) diameter, between the 5B and 2B sizes
- Oval nylon tip, for an attack that cuts through
- Short taper and thick shoulder: the mass stays up front
- Black-stained shaft with artwork
- Signature model designed with drummer Mike Wengren
Nylon for when the band plays loud
A nylon tip is harder and smoother than a wood tip. Against bronze, it excites more of the high frequencies: the ping comes out brighter and the hi-hat gets cutting.
In front of two down-tuned guitars and a distorted bass, that is often the difference between a cymbal you hear and one you only guess at. Nylon also keeps its shape much longer than wood, which keeps the tone stable from week to week.
Seventeen inches, and why it matters
An extra inch over a standard stick changes two things. The first is reach: high, distant cymbals come within range without getting up off the throne. The second is inertia, which increases with length and adds weight to the stroke.
You have to accept it: a long, thick stick takes more control than a 5A, especially for fast runs.
A short shoulder, built for the rim
The taper happens quickly and the shoulder stays full. That is the area that takes rimshots and hits on the edge of the hi-hat; the thicker it is, the longer the stick lasts.
The black stain on the shaft has no effect on the sound: it simply makes the stick visible on stage.
Specifications
| Series | Players Design, signature model |
|---|---|
| Length | 17 in (43.2 cm) |
| Diameter | 0.625 in (15.9 mm) |
| Tip | Oval nylon |
| Shoulder | Short, quick taper |
| Look | Black stain with printed artwork |
What it is for
- Metal and heavy rock on big stages
- Large kits with high, distant cymbals
- Drummers who need cymbals audible at high volume
- Repeated rimshots on the snare
- Electronic drums, where the nylon tip is easy on the pads
Compare with other manufacturers
Long nylon-tip sticks from other manufacturers:
| Manufacturer | Comparable model | What differs |
|---|---|---|
| Regal Tip | 5B nylon tip | Standard length, from the range that pioneered the process |
| Vic Firth | American Classic 2B Nylon | Thicker shaft, shorter length |
| Promark | Classic Forward 5B Nylon | Shorter profile, no stain or artwork |
| Zildjian | Super 5B Nylon | Less extra length, differently shaped tip |
Frequently asked questions
- Does nylon really sound brighter?
- Yes. The material is harder and smoother than wood, which emphasizes the high frequencies in the attack of the cymbal.
- Can a nylon tip come off?
- It is rare, but it happens after long use or a violent hit on a rim. A wood tip tends to chip rather than come off.
- Is it suitable for electronic drums?
- Yes. Nylon wears mesh heads and rubber pads less than wood that chips.
- Are 17 inch sticks hard to handle?
- For power playing, no: the length helps. For very fast runs, they take more control than a standard stick.
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